for more, let's turn to bob shrump. good to have you with us tonight. >> glad to be here. >> you bet. this meeting tomorrow, it is rather lincolnesque of president obama to do this, to bring in someone totally opposite of him when it comes to ideology and thinking about how to run the country. is this going to be a serious discussion or is this just a friendship lunch? >> my guess is that it is largely symbolic. it is good for democracy, the president and mitt romney, who is leaving the national stage. we won't have romney to kick around anymore. the reason he was kicked so hard is what he said afterwards when he tripled down or doubled down on that 47% comment. he can come out of the white house and make a statement. he is never going to live there. at least, he is going to get to visit. it is good for the president. he is reaching across the aisle. he is being bipartisan. it is good for democracy. it ratifies the results. it is not all that common. george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note